{"id":2262,"date":"2015-05-07T15:55:22","date_gmt":"2015-05-07T19:55:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/66.147.242.160\/~stumbli4\/?p=2262"},"modified":"2015-05-11T14:01:25","modified_gmt":"2015-05-11T18:01:25","slug":"francischurch-see-no-hear-no-speak-no-or-youre-evil","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stumblingblock.org\/?p=2262","title":{"rendered":"FrancisChurch: See No, Hear No, Speak No&#8230;Or You&#8217;re Evil!"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_2287\" style=\"width: 390px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/66.147.242.160\/~stumbli4\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/vader-baby.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2287\" class=\" wp-image-2287\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/66.147.242.160\/~stumbli4\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/vader-baby.jpg?resize=380%2C363\" alt=\"Who am I to judge?\" width=\"380\" height=\"363\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2287\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Who am I to judge?<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Pope Francis has often railed against &#8216;ideologues&#8217; or, in his mind, people who put some lesser belief system above the Truth.\u00a0 It&#8217;s a trick a generic way for him to attack a specific group of people: faithful conservatives.<\/p>\n<p>The Pope actually <em>is<\/em> an ideologue because he puts his worldy agenda and biases ahead of the Faith.\u00a0 It&#8217;s just that his own ideology is on the far Left, not the Right. There are no real &#8216;ideologues&#8217; on the right, just Christians.\u00a0 True conservatism is not ideological.\u00a0 It&#8217;s simply a refusal to condemn good things from the past, a past formed by the Church itself.<\/p>\n<p>Since his faith can be thin, he&#8217;s often contemptuous of the ancient Faith and those who cherish it. Pope Francis clings to physical, current realities which are concrete and solid. He sees Christianity as a radical code to overturn the &#8216;social&#8217; order and upend the powerful in the world, <em>and<\/em> in the Church. Yes, the Church is part of the problem!<\/p>\n<p>The Pope&#8217;s radicalism just needs to be applied for the faith to be lived.\u00a0 Like Islam, his &#8216;Christianity&#8217; isn&#8217;t truly observed unless it&#8217;s militant.\u00a0 In that respect he is right. The Church Faithful should be militant.\u00a0 If only he were preaching militancy for the actual Faith.\u00a0 Instead, he appears to be a true believer in the mold of South American liberation theologist rebels, and that&#8217;s not really very Catholic at all.<\/p>\n<p>In his attacks on ideologues, the Pope hopes that all men would begin to view faithful Catholics as stubborn, proud, selfish and petty, so they would then turn to his own ideology and call it the Faith.<\/p>\n<p>Fr. Longenecker is here to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/standingonmyhead\/2015\/05\/why-religious-people-are-worse-than-darth-vader.html?ref_widget=trending\" target=\"_blank\">help him<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The teacher in my screenwriting class said, \u201cTo create a believable villain you have to understand why he thinks he\u2019s good.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In other words, nobody gets up in the morning deciding to be just as nasty, mean and murderous as possible.<\/p>\n<p>No. even Darth Vader thinks he\u2019s a good guy, and to give George Lucas the credit for what were three pretty terrible prequel movies, at least we learned why Darth Vader is the baddie.<\/p>\n<p>He was just another young guy in love, but for seemingly good reasons (to rescue then avenge his mother) he started to kill. Then he decided that he had to kill some more in order to bring justice to the galaxy. In other words, Darth Vader is an ideologue. He wants to do good, and is willing to do evil to accomplish his ends, and the greater good he wants to achieve the worse evil he may have to use.<\/p>\n<p>Ideologues are bad, but religious ideologies are the worst.<\/p>\n<p>The secular ideologue believes he is on the side of the right because of his belief system. The religious ideologue believes that God himself is on his side and there ain\u2019t nuthin\u2019 that\u2019s going to convince him otherwise. There\u2019s no discussion. There is no dialogue with the ideologue.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There&#8217;s a lot of dialogue with FrancisChurch that&#8217;s true.\u00a0 You&#8217;d have to be Darth Vader to object I suppose.<\/p>\n<p>So the problem with an ideologue is that he thinks he&#8217;s right and he thinks he follows God.\u00a0 Why is that always bad?\u00a0 Isn&#8217;t that true at least sometimes?\u00a0 Is it possible to believe what God thinks and to do it, or must doubt be mandatory for all &#8216;good&#8217; people?\u00a0 How can a Catholic think like this?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The religious ideologue will slander, mock, attack, exclude, persecute and finally kill the \u201cenemy\u201d and think he\u2019s not only doing the right thing, but doing God a favor.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, I know, we see the ultimate religious ideologue in the monsters of ISIS.<\/p>\n<p>But hang on. Blaming the other person, the other religion, the other political party, the other bad guy is\u00a0<em>exactly\u00a0<\/em>what makes you bad and takes you into the downward spiral of religious self righteousness.<\/p>\n<p>Sure the wolves of ISIS are demon possessed monsters, murderers, rapists and bloodthirsty, angry monsters and \u201cwe hates them my precious\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But to avoid being a bad religious person myself I have to see where I might be\u00a0turning into Darth Vader.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is frightening to me. Blame is what you do when you determine who is at fault.\u00a0 You don&#8217;t need to proclaim it, but you can at least reasonably think it, yes?\u00a0 If we were all angels there would be no blame.\u00a0 Are we all Angels then?\u00a0 Well, some of us are ISIS-like Vaders.<\/p>\n<p>So in the new Francis-LongeneckerChurch I can find no fault with a person, a religion, or a political party without being &#8216;the worst baddie.&#8217;\u00a0 <strong>I hope I don&#8217;t seem too self-righteous when I say that it will be more convenient for some people, religions, and\/or political parties than others.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Father has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/standingonmyhead\/2015\/05\/why-religious-people-are-worse-than-darth-vader.html?ref_widget=trending\" target=\"_blank\">three pages<\/a> of this stuff.<\/p>\n<p>Overnight it seems there is only cheap ruthless demagoguery where there once was Faith.\u00a0 The gifts of the Holy Spirit: wisdom, understanding, counsel, fortitude, knowledge, piety, fear of the Lord , how can you have any of them floating down on your head and still be swayed by this kind of false shepherding?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pope Francis has often railed against &#8216;ideologues&#8217; or, in his mind, people who put some lesser belief system above the Truth.\u00a0 It&#8217;s a trick a generic way for him to attack a specific group of people: faithful conservatives. 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