{"id":495,"date":"2015-03-12T19:28:56","date_gmt":"2015-03-12T19:28:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/66.147.242.160\/~stumbli4\/?p=495"},"modified":"2015-03-12T19:28:56","modified_gmt":"2015-03-12T19:28:56","slug":"la-times-sees-a-francis-the-catholic-press-wont","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stumblingblock.org\/?p=495","title":{"rendered":"LA Times Sees A Francis The Catholic Press Won\u2019t"},"content":{"rendered":"

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The LA Times Reports<\/a>:<\/p>\n

Benedict famously made it\u00a0easier<\/a> for priests around the world to celebrate the \u201cextraordinary form\u201d of the Mass — that is, the Latin liturgy celebrated throughout the Catholic world before the changes set in motion by the Second Vatican Council. Francis long has been viewed with suspicion by devotees of the old Mass — and for good reason.<\/p>\n

Take the comments attributed to him by Archbishop\u00a0Jan Graubner<\/a> of the Czech Republic. According to Graubner, Francis described affection for the old Latin Mass as a \u201cfashion.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cIt is just necessary to show some patience and kindness to people who are addicted to a certain fashion,\u201d the pope reportedly said. \u201cBut I consider greatly important to go deep into things, because if we do not go deep, no liturgical form, this or that one, can save us.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The Pope is so cruel, and has such contempt for faithful Catholics.\u00a0 Also, it’s infuriating how ‘deep’ liberals always are.\u00a0 What in the world is down there so deep?<\/p>\n

Last week, Francis seemed to double down on his dismissal of Latin Mass traditionalists. On March 7, he celebrated Mass at the Roman church where Pope Paul VI exactly 50 years before had celebrated Mass in Italian for the first time.<\/p>\n

On leaving the church, according to the Catholic News Service<\/a>, Francis said: “Let us give thanks to the Lord for what he has done in his church in these 50 years of liturgical reform. It was really a courageous move by the church to get closer to the people of God so that they could understand well what it does, and this is important for us: to follow Mass like this.\u201d<\/p>\n

For many Catholic traditionalists — not all of them elderly — these were shocking words. It\u2019s not just that they find the old Latin Mass more aesthetically edifying than vernacular versions. The old Mass is a proxy for a cluster of theological precepts that have been eroded since Vatican II, notably the ideas that the Mass is primarily a repetition of Christ\u2019s death on the cross (rather than a communal meal) and that the Mass is primarily the action of the priest rather than of the congregation.<\/p>\n

The Roman Catholic Church is now experiencing the sort of polarization in public worship that long has been common in Anglican churches, in which some\u00a0“high church”<\/a>\u00a0parishes feature elaborate ceremony while \u201clow church\u201d congregations favor a stripped-down, simpler rite.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

This is true.\u00a0 It’s like someone put a hipster Anglican at the helm.<\/p>\n

Separate vocabularies also have grown up: Traditionalist Catholics will say that a priest \u201coffers Mass\u201d; liberal Catholics call the priest the \u201cpresider\u201d at what they are more likely to call the “Eucharist.” The implication of the latter terminology is that the priest is the chairman of an essentially corporate act of worship. (Traditionalist Catholics see this as creeping Protestantism.)<\/p>\n

Pope Benedict, who grew up in the Baroque Catholicism of Bavaria, left little doubt about which side he was on. Francis, although he embraces some aspects of pre-Vatican II Catholicism (such as veneration of the Virgin Mary), is pretty clearly a modernizer when it comes to liturgical reform. No wonder some traditionalist Catholics still consider Benedict the real pope<\/a>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Despite this last slur at ‘traditionalists’, it’s amazing what a clear-eyed secular writer can see when they look at our Church. Vatican II is everything new. The Virgin Mary didn’t quite carry over.\u00a0 Catholics with a true and consistent faith have little in common with FrancisChurch.<\/p>\n

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The LA Times Reports: Benedict famously made it\u00a0easier for priests around the world to celebrate the \u201cextraordinary form\u201d of the Mass — that is, the Latin liturgy celebrated throughout the Catholic world before the changes set in motion by the Second Vatican Council. Francis long has been viewed with suspicion by devotees of the old …<\/span> Read More →<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-495","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stumblingblock.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/495","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stumblingblock.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stumblingblock.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stumblingblock.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stumblingblock.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=495"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/stumblingblock.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/495\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":503,"href":"https:\/\/stumblingblock.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/495\/revisions\/503"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stumblingblock.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=495"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stumblingblock.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=495"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stumblingblock.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=495"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}