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  1. Russell Shaw, OSV, thinks we need to reapply ourselves, double down our efforts to get with the various Vatican II programs, such as … empowering the Laity to make their voices heard in the Church:

    https://www.osvnews.com/2022/09/22/the-call-of-vatican-ii-still-resonates-60-years-later/

    – quote –

    “There is, however, plenty of unfinished business from Vatican II … A case in point is what the council said in Lumen Gentium, the dogmatic constitution on the Church, about creating a means for qualified laypeople to express opinions: “By reason of the knowledge, competence or pre-eminence which they have, the laity are empowered — indeed sometimes obliged — to manifest their opinion on those things which pertain to the good of the Church. If the occasion should arise, this should be done through the institutions established by the Church for that purpose” (No. 37).

    – end quote –

    Funny, that. Because the Laity *have been* “manifesting their opinions”, vigorously, in support of their rights to the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, the TLM. And the more vocal we get, the more vigorous the Clerics of the Church are in shutting them down, shutting them up, closing them up, excluding, isolating, persecuting them. We have been vocal about heretical changes to doctrine, morals and practice.

    We don’t need “the” Council’s Lumen Gentium (37) to support our rights to be heard, either. The Mass and morals belongs to the Faithful by Divine right. But … since Russell Shaw is talking about Vatican II and revisiting all the wonderful things it has to say about (for instance) *listening*. WELL?! Why are you responding to our listening sessions by kicking the Faithful outside to the curb (literally)?

    The only voices Vatican II Church listens to are those that express the opinions that Dogmas and Doctrines and Traditions and Morals should all be changed in a religious revolution. Those voices get pride of place, are heard, are assimilated. Voices that express fidelity to Christ and Sacred Tradition … not so much.

    We don’t need Lumen Gentium to inform Clerics and Laity to listen to each other and fill their proper roles in submission to Jesus Christ and Sacred Tradition – careful guarding the Faith and delivering it to a world starving for God.

    Listen to this: *Give us our Holy Traditional Latin Mass, to everyone who asks, and everywhere they desire it*! Do you hear us?!

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